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By Curtis Betting Racing Tipsters February 17, 2018
Fire and Forget is a relatively long standing horse racing tipster service which is operated under the Pro Betting Club stable of tipsters. It claims to have a very high strike rate for a win based service.
What does the product offer?
The Pro Betting Club team make one claim about Fire and Forget that stands out more than anything that I have seen for a while. They say that they “virtually guarantee a winner every day”. There is also an incredible strike rate claimed of 99% which means that in theory, Fire and Forget should be the best tipster service in the world. As you can probably expect however, this doesn’t quite paint the full picture.
In terms of what you are getting with Fire and Forget, I should point out that you are actually getting two services here. The core one is indeed Fire and Forget and that is the focus of the review. There are however additional selections which are issued by the Pro Betting Club under the banner of “Sure Certs”. I won’t be spending too much time on this however as I see it as more of a bonus than a separate service and a way to make Fire and Forget seem like better value. Realistically, whatever is said about Fire and Forget can be applied equally to Sure Certs
Fire and Forget is rather unlike your average tipster service in ways that I will get to later, but fundamentally things are much as you would expect. Pro Betting Club issue selections on a near daily basis which are sent out via email. There are 6 selections each day however you will not necessarily be betting on them all. The odds on these selections are somewhat varied however the highest winner to come in was at 7/2 so you will not really see big wins with Fire and Forget.
Whilst we are on this subject, I would like to say that Sure Certs operates in almost exactly the same way as Fire and Forget. The only difference really lies in the number of horses that Pro Betting Club offer as selections.
There is a staking plan in place, however this is a rather complex being and as such, I will cover it in more detail in the section on how Fire and Forget works. What I will say here is that the nature of Fire and Forget can mean that you end up placing some rather substantial stake for a relatively small return. Whilst on the subject of a staking plan, although it isn’t given specifically, the same method is advised for any bets that are provided for Sure Certs.
This leads me onto the numbers for Fire and Forget which make for rather interesting reading. With a claimed strike rate of 99% and just 7 losing days since August 2015, it is important to understand how Pro Betting Club calculate this. They consider a loss to be a day in which a profit isn’t made. What this means is that really, only one horse in six ultimately has to win for them to consider it a pass for the day. Likewise, the claimed strike rate of Sure Certs at 95% is subject to the same condition.
How does the product work?
The key to Fire and Forget really lies in the staking plan that is in place. For sake of ease, I will look at a recent day that Pro Betting Club actually advised. This day has been selected because it shows how Fire and Forget is very easily able to work, whilst also showing how there is a lot of risk inherent in their system which is overlooked by the strike rate that they are so keen to discuss.
First things first however, I should explain how Fire and Forget works. Those who are familiar with betting terms will know what a stop at a win staking plan entails. For those who don’t, you stake an amount of money on each bet with a view to making 1 point of profit. This is adjusted as the day goes on so that should a bet comes in, you have won your goal.
So the 12th of September looked something like this.
02:05 WORCESTER APRO BETTING CLUBURI LOST
02:35 WORCESTER SKILLED LOST
03:10 LISTOWEL MAZE RUNNER LOST
04:10 LISTOWEL CAPITAL FORCE LOST
04:25 LEICESTER GRAPHITE STORM WIN
By the time a horse finally came in that won, you would have been staking around £75 to have made a £10 profit. Fortunately, Pro Betting Club came good and Fire and Forget did hit its target for the day, but what if that horse hadn’t come in? Where would you have ultimately ended up?
One of the things that is important to note with Fire and Forget is that in terms of the selection process, the service seems to mostly favour favourites. There is nothing that really talks about why horses are selected. Don’t get me wrong, given that a favourite is statistically likely to win around 1 in 3 races, it seems pretty safe to say that by backing 6 favourites one of them will win, however there have been circumstances where this hasn’t happened before.
What is the initial investment?
The pricing for Fire and Forget is rather reasonable with Pro Betting Club asking £49 per month for the service. This includes receiving selections for Sure Certs as well. At the time of writing, when you subscribe to Fire and Forget you can get your first month for half price meaning just £24.50. Payment is processed directly via Pro Betting Club and there is no money back guarantee in place. This is however generally standard for most genuine tipster services.
What is the rate of return?
In theory, the rate of return for Fire and Forget should be 1 point per day. This doesn’t sound terribly impressive however the numbers can add up over the course of a year. It is worth keeping in mind however that your actual number will be less than this with the figures for Fire and Forget showing that there will be an average of 3 days per year where you will lose which could well be 10 points or more. Likewise, there are the odd days where Pro Betting Club don’t have selections and as such, you will not make money here either. Your profits could be boosted by following Sure Certs as well as Fire and Forget however this will likely involve very deep pockets.
Conclusion
I actually rather like Fire and Forget. I know, it doesn’t sound like it, especially from the opening but that is more down to my feelings about how Pro Betting Club represent their service rather than what it actually is. This isn’t a horse racing service with a strike rate of 99%. A look at the example that I provided shows that on that day, 5 horses out of 6 lost. This would mean 17% at best. Despite this however, there is something happening under the hood that is rather agreeable.
There is also the point that must be made about your betting bank, namely that you have to have pretty deep pockets in order to maintain Fire and Forget. This is doubly true when it comes to the days where none of the selections will come in.
All of that having been said, I don’t think that you can argue with the results that have been obtained so far. There is an undeniable consistency to Fire and Forget and even staking £10 per point will net you a few hundred pounds per month with very little risk. This isn’t necessarily a lot of money, however it is something that can add up and furthermore, it seems reasonable to say that you could compound your earnings with Fire and Forget to increase your overall profits.
The thing with Fire and Forget for me is that it isn’t overwhelmingly great. It is however solid and consistent and for those who are new to making money online, these are two factors that you should look for. Probably the biggest downside is that you will need to bet through the day. Don’t forget, once you have made your daily profit, the Pro Betting Club team say that you should stop betting. This also means that when a horse loses, you then have to go about finding the best bet you can for the next race.
This somewhat “labour intensive” side of Fire and Forget is probably the one thing that I don’t like. This will no doubt put some users off, especially those with a 9-5. For those who are looking to supplement an income and have time during the day however, I think that Fire and Forget is probably one of the better products that I have looked at in some time, and as such, it is well worth your consideration.
